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August 14th, 2010, 12:01 pm #1


The program about Bix on BBC 3 starts at 4 pm London time, 11 am in New York. Here are the details supplied by the BBC 3 website
<h1>Bix Beiderbecke</h1><div class="content"><div class="emp"><div class="first"><div class="sradio3">
<span class="date">Today</span>, <span class="starttime">16:00</span> on <span class="location">BBC Radio 3</span>
</div></div></div><div class="blq-clearfix"><h2>Synopsis</h2>
Despite a recording career that lasted only from 1924 to 1931, Bix Beiderbecke changed the way jazz soloists played. An influence on a par with Louis Armstrong or Sidney Bechet, his discs had an immediate and long-lasting effect.
Ian Smith joins Alyn Shipton to explore the legend of the tragically short-lived Beiderbecke, and to choose his key recordings, including his small group masterpieces "Singing the Blues" and "I'm Coming Virginia" plus his later work with the big bands of Jean Goldkette and Paul Whiteman. Beiderbecke's piano compositions are also discussed, and his pioneering use of the language of French impressionism in jazz.
</div><div><h2>Music played</h2>
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<ol>[*]<div class="segment music-segment">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p009c31w#track"><div class="title"><h4><span>http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/a7fc ... 554#artist</span>"><span class="artist">Bix Beiderbecke and the Wolverines</span> <span class="track">Jazz Me Blues</span></h4><div class="synopsis">
Composer: Delaney Performer: Bix Beiderbecke, c; Jimmy Hartwell, cl; Al Gandee, tb; George Johnson, ts; Dick Voynow, p; Bob Gillette, bj; Min Leibrook, tu; Vic Moore, d. Richmond, Indiana, 18 Feb 1924.
<span class="release-title"><span><span>The Bix Beiderbecke Story</span></span></span>, <span class="record-label">Proper</span>, <span class="catalogue-number">Properbox 66 CD 1</span>, <span class="track-number">Tr 2</span> </div></div></div></li>[*]<div class="segment music-segment">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p009c31y#track"><div class="title"><h4><span><span class="artist">Bix and His Gang</span></span> <span class="track">Jazz Me Blues</span></h4><div class="synopsis">
Composer: Delaney Performer: Bix Beiderbecke, c; Bill Rank, tb; Don Murray, cl; Adrian Rollini, bass sax; Frank Signorelli, p; Chauncey Morehouse, d. 5 Oct 1927.
<span class="release-title"><span><span>The Bix Beiderbecke Story</span></span></span>, <span class="record-label">Proper</span>, <span class="catalogue-number">Properbox 66 CD 2</span>, <span class="track-number">Tr 21</span> </div></div></div></li>[*]<div class="segment music-segment">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p009c320#track"><div class="title"><h4><span>http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/5f40 ... 9e1#artist</span>"><span class="artist">Jean Goldkette and His Orchestra</span> <span class="track">I Didnt Know</span></h4><div class="synopsis">
Composer: Williams / Jones Performer: Fuzzy Farrar, Tex Brisstar, tp; Bix Beiderbecke, c; Bill Rank, Tommy Dorsey, tb; Doc Ryker, Don Murray, George Williams, reeds; Joe Venuti, vn; Paul Mertz, p; Howdy Quicksell, bj; Irish Henry, tu; Charles Horvath, d. 24 Nov 1924.
<span class="release-title"><span><span>Bix Beiderbecke With Jean Goldkette's Orchestra, 1924 - 27</span></span></span>, <span class="record-label">Challenge</span>, <span class="catalogue-number">79040</span>, <span class="track-number">Tr 1</span> </div></div></div></li>[*]<div class="segment music-segment">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p009c322#track"><div class="title"><h4><span>http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/c0b4 ... 01a#artist</span>"><span class="artist">Bix Beiderbecke and His Rhythm Jugglers</span> <span class="track">Davenport Blues</span></h4><div class="synopsis">
Composer: Beiderbecke Performer: Bix Beiderbecke, c; Don Murray cl; Tommy Dorsey, tb; Paul Mertz, p; Tommy Gargano, d. 26 Jan 1925.
<span class="release-title"><span><span>Bix Beiderbecke & The Chicago Cornets</span></span></span>, <span class="record-label">Milestone</span>, <span class="catalogue-number">47019</span>, <span class="track-number">Tr 19</span> </div></div></div></li>[*]<div class="segment music-segment">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p009c324#track"><div class="title"><h4><span>http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/9d67 ... 4bc#artist</span>"><span class="artist">Frankie Trumbauer and His Orchestra</span> <span class="track">Singin The Blues</span></h4><div class="synopsis">
Composer: Robinson / Conrad / Young / Lewis Performer: Bix Beiderbecke, c; Bill Rank, tb; Frank Trumbauer, C-Melody saxophone; Jimmy Dorsey, cl, as; Doc Ryker, as; Paul Mertz, p; Eddie Lang, g; Chauncey Morehouse, d. 4 Feb 1927.
<span class="release-title"><span><span>Bix Beiderbecke, Vol. 1: Singin' the Blues</span></span></span>, <span class="record-label">Columbia</span>, <span class="catalogue-number">CK-45450</span>, <span class="track-number">Tr 3</span> </div></div></div></li>[*]<div class="segment music-segment">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p009c326#track"><div class="title"><h4><span>http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/9d67 ... 4bc#artist</span>"><span class="artist">Frankie Trumbauer and His Orchestra</span> <span class="track">Clarinet Marmalade</span></h4><div class="synopsis">
Composer: Shields / Ragas Performer: Bix Beiderbecke, c; Bill Rank, tb; Frank Trumbauer, C-Melody saxophone; Jimmy Dorsey, cl, as; Doc Ryker, as; Paul Mertz, p; Eddie Lang, g; Chauncey Morehouse, d. 4 Feb 1927.
<span class="release-title"><span><span>The Bix Beiderbecke Story</span></span></span>, <span class="record-label">Proper</span>, <span class="catalogue-number">Properbox 66 CD 1</span>, <span class="track-number">Tr 23</span> </div></div></div></li>[*]<div class="segment music-segment">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p009c329#track"><div class="title"><h4><span>http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/9d67 ... 4bc#artist</span>"><span class="artist">Frankie Trumbauer and His Orchestra</span> <span class="track">I'm Coming Virginia</span></h4><div class="synopsis">
Composer: Shields / Ragas Performer: BIx Beiderbecke, c; Bill Rank, tb; Frank Trumbauer, C-Melody saxophone; Don Murray, cl, as; Doc Ryker, as; Irv Riskin, p; Eddie Lang, g; Chauncey Morehouse, d. 9 May 1927.
<span class="release-title"><span><span>The Bix Beiderbecke Story</span></span></span>, <span class="record-label">Proper</span>, <span class="catalogue-number">FA 215 CD 1</span>, <span class="track-number">Tr 13</span> </div></div></div></li>[*]<div class="segment music-segment">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p009c32g#track"><div class="title"><h4><span>http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/3228 ... bbc#artist</span>"><span class="artist">Bix Beiderbecke</span> <span class="track">In a Mist</span></h4><div class="synopsis">
Composer: Beiderbecke Performer: Bix Beiderbecke, p. 9 Sep 1927.
<span class="release-title"><span><span>Bix Restored Volume 1: 1924-1927</span></span></span>, <span class="record-label">Origin</span>, <span class="catalogue-number">BXCD 01-03 Disc 3</span>, <span class="track-number">Tr 18</span> </div></div></div></li>[*]<div class="segment music-segment">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p009c32l#track"><div class="title"><h4><span>http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/dfcf ... 46d#artist</span>"><span class="artist">Jean Goldkette</span> <span class="track">I'm Looking Over a Four Leaf Clover</span></h4><div class="synopsis">
Composer: Dixon / Woods Performer: Fuzzy Farrar, Ray Lodwig, t; Bix Beiderbecke, c; Bill Rank, Spiegle Willcox, tb; Doc Ryker, Jimmy Dorsey, Frankie Trumbauer, reeds; Joe Venuti, vn; Paul Mertz, p; Howdy Quicksell, bj; Steve Brown, b; Chauncey Morehouse, d. Bill Murray, vo. 28 Jan 1927.
<span class="release-title"><span><span>The Bix Beiderbecke Story</span></span></span>, <span class="record-label">Proper</span>, <span class="catalogue-number">Properbox 66 CD 1</span>, <span class="track-number">Tr 20</span> </div></div></div></li>[*]<div class="segment music-segment">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p009c32q#track"><div class="title"><h4><span>http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/03ad ... c39#artist</span>"><span class="artist">Paul Whiteman & His Orchestra</span> <span class="track">Dardanella</span></h4><div class="synopsis">
Composer: Bernard / Black / Fisher Performer: Henry Busse, Bix Beiderbecke, Charlie Margulis, tp, c; Boyce Cullen, Wilber Hall, Bill Rank, tb; Chet Hazlett, Jimmy Dorsey, Hal McLean, Frank Trumbauer, Charles Strickfaden, reeds; Matty Malneck, Mischa Russell, Kurt Dieterle, vn; Roy Bargy, p; Mike Trafficante, tu; Steve Brown, b; Mike Pingitore, bj; Hal McDonald, d. 9 Feb 1928.
<span class="release-title"><span><span>The Bix Beiderbecke Story</span></span></span>, <span class="record-label">Proper</span>, <span class="catalogue-number">Properbox 66 CD 3</span>, <span class="track-number">Tr 14</span> </div></div></div></li>[*]<div class="segment music-segment">http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p009c32w#track"><div class="title"><h4><span>http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/b8d9 ... ff7#artist</span>"><span class="artist">Paul Whiteman</span> <span class="track">From Monday On</span></h4><div class="synopsis">
Composer: Barris / Crosby Performer: Jimmy Dorsey, Bix Beiderbecke, Charlie Margulis, tp, c; Bill Rank, tb; Chet Hazlett, Hal McLean, Frankie Trumbauer, Charles Strickfaden, reeds; Matty Malneck, Mischa Russell, Kurt Dieterle, vn; Roy Bargy, p; Mike Trafficante, tu; Steve Brown, b; Mike Pingitore, bj; Hal McDonald, d. Bing Crosby, Charles Gaylord, Austin Young, Jack Fulton, Al Rinker, voc. 13 Feb 1928.
<span class="release-title"><span><span>The Bix Beiderbecke Story</span></span></span>, <span class="record-label">Proper</span>, <span class="catalogue-number">Properbox 66 CD 3</span>, <span class="track-number">Tr 16</span> </div></div></div></li>[/list]</div><div><h2>Go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/  and click on "listen live" when the time comes.</h2><h2>Albert</h2></div></div>
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August 14th, 2010, 9:15 pm #2


<strong>The Positive.</strong>

<strong>- </strong>Not a rehash of Bix's biography. Emphasis on Bix's recorded legacy.

- Most records played from beginning to end; a few were  truncated.

- Some decent comments. For example, Bix had a range of techniques and styles; Bix had a melancholy and romantic strain; Bix, in his professional career, was basically a dance band musician. [we often forget this, we see him as a jazz musician.]

<strong>The Negative.</strong>

<strong>- </strong>Several factual errors.
  • The Wolverines were witnesses of a gangster shoot out in Hamilton, not Chicago. </li>
  • Bix never went to a military school </li>
  • The Origin Jazz set is called "Bix Restored" not "Bix Remastered." </li>
  • Henderson with Rex Stewart recorded "Singin' the Blues" four years after Bix and Tram did, not a few months.</li>
- I disagree with some of the psychological clap trap uttered in the program; for example, it is said that Bix had a "solemn refusal to conform." I don't think so. Bix did not refuse to conform; he did not conform as an act of conscious rebellion, as a deliberate decision; Bix did not conform because he was too interested in pursuing his musical calling.

- There is a criticism of Bix's fellow musicians: Smith asserts that they played like kids, that the saxes in one of the recordings sounded like a "bad kids band." I disagree. Lang, Rollini, Trumbauer, Murray, Brown, Venuti, Morehouse playing like kids? Nonsense. 

- The fraction of Bix recorded work compared to what he played is very small. This was presented as a particular feature of Bix's career. I don't think so. Most musicians who plyed in busy working bands played a lot more outside recording studios than in recording studios.

Overall, it was a decent program, and I commend the hosts for placing the emphasis on Bix's music. After all, music is what Bix is all about, the rest is secondary.

Albert
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August 15th, 2010, 7:06 pm #3

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August 16th, 2010, 9:10 am #4

<strong>The Positive.</strong>

<strong>- </strong>Not a rehash of Bix's biography. Emphasis on Bix's recorded legacy.

- Most records played from beginning to end; a few were  truncated.

- Some decent comments. For example, Bix had a range of techniques and styles; Bix had a melancholy and romantic strain; Bix, in his professional career, was basically a dance band musician. [we often forget this, we see him as a jazz musician.]

<strong>The Negative.</strong>

<strong>- </strong>Several factual errors.
  • The Wolverines were witnesses of a gangster shoot out in Hamilton, not Chicago. </li>
  • Bix never went to a military school </li>
  • The Origin Jazz set is called "Bix Restored" not "Bix Remastered." </li>
  • Henderson with Rex Stewart recorded "Singin' the Blues" four years after Bix and Tram did, not a few months.</li>
- I disagree with some of the psychological clap trap uttered in the program; for example, it is said that Bix had a "solemn refusal to conform." I don't think so. Bix did not refuse to conform; he did not conform as an act of conscious rebellion, as a deliberate decision; Bix did not conform because he was too interested in pursuing his musical calling.

- There is a criticism of Bix's fellow musicians: Smith asserts that they played like kids, that the saxes in one of the recordings sounded like a "bad kids band." I disagree. Lang, Rollini, Trumbauer, Murray, Brown, Venuti, Morehouse playing like kids? Nonsense. 

- The fraction of Bix recorded work compared to what he played is very small. This was presented as a particular feature of Bix's career. I don't think so. Most musicians who plyed in busy working bands played a lot more outside recording studios than in recording studios.

Overall, it was a decent program, and I commend the hosts for placing the emphasis on Bix's music. After all, music is what Bix is all about, the rest is secondary.

Albert
On the whole I thought the programme was enjoyable, but there were one or two important things where I thought it missed out. I was pleased to hear that great bassist, Steve Brown, get some long overdue exposure, but I thought the records they played to demonstrate how good he was could have been better chosen. I also liked the fact that they pointed out what a great ensemble player Bix was, that he played such tremendous lead, and how sure footed he was in playing fast passages. Another thing they missed was to point out how Challis and Bix scored some of the trumpet sections passages in both Goldkette and Whiteman arrangements. They could have used My Pretty Girl as an example, and that would also have shown Steve Browns great playing much better than Im looking over - the example they used. I agree that Ian Smiths saying that the sax section sounded like a bad kids band, was ridiculous. He did say that that was the fault of the 20s recording technique, but I still dont hear it like that.
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