Can anyone identify the musicians in this photo?

Can anyone identify the musicians in this photo?

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June 24th, 2011, 12:09 pm #1


<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://bixbeiderbecke.com/CarlisleEvansLouBlack1.jpg">

The fourth from the left is Carlisle Evans. The first from the right is Lou Black.

Here is a photo of Lou Black (from the jazzage blog.)

<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1298/467 ... 23e1_m.jpg">

Albert
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Malcolm Walton
Malcolm Walton

June 25th, 2011, 12:27 am #2

The 6th from the left guy looks a little like Bix. If he had the correct ears you could be forgiven for saying that it was indeed him !
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Chris Tyle
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July 2nd, 2011, 12:44 pm #3

<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://bixbeiderbecke.com/CarlisleEvansLouBlack1.jpg">

The fourth from the left is Carlisle Evans. The first from the right is Lou Black.

Here is a photo of Lou Black (from the jazzage blog.)

<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1298/467 ... 23e1_m.jpg">

Albert
Could that be Leon Roppolo third from left?
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

July 2nd, 2011, 2:36 pm #4


Here are, juxtaposed, the real Roppolo (from Wikipedia) and the third guy from the left in the photo of the Carlisle band.

 

Chris, I think that could be Roppolo. Good suggestion. Other opinions?

Albert

 
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

July 2nd, 2011, 4:29 pm #5


In 1921, Bee Palmer was in the midwest on a tour booked by the Orpheum chain. In January 1921, Bee's group -including Emmett Hardy and Leon Roppolo- arrived in Davenport and appeared in the Columbia Theatre. Bee Palmer's show was too risque: a coalition of clergy, educators and parents complained so loudly that Bee's show was cancelled and she left Davenport. Hardy and Roppolo hung arond Davenport and joined Evans Carlisle's band. The band included trombonist Tal Sexton, saxophonist Myron Neal, drummer Jack Willett and banjoist Lou Black. 

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July 2nd, 2011, 4:45 pm #6

Here are, juxtaposed, the real Roppolo (from Wikipedia) and the third guy from the left in the photo of the Carlisle band.

 

Chris, I think that could be Roppolo. Good suggestion. Other opinions?

Albert

 
Inspired by Chris, I am wondering if the second guy from the left could be Emmett Hardy.  Here are juxtaposed the real Emmett Hardy (from http://www.network54.com/Forum/27140/me ... 175684658/ cropped and rotated), another photo of Hardy (in several sites in the web) and the second guy from the left. What do you think?

<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://bixography.com/Hardy/Emmett1.jpg"> <img alt="[linked image]" src="http://bixography.com/Hardy/Emmett2.jpg"> <a href="http://bixography.com/HardyEmmettPerhap ... o.jpg"></a>

The wide parting of the hair in the second guy from the left would lead  me to discard this sugggestion. However, with a bit of photoshopping

<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://bixography.com/Hardy/EmmettPerha ... ouched.jpg">

there is some resemblance with  the real Hardy.  Comments?

Albert
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Brad Kay
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July 3rd, 2011, 1:36 am #7

I vote yes for Roppolo and yes for Hardy.

You'll notice in the Hardy comparisons, his part is in the same exact location on the forehead, and his "widow's peak" on the left is the same. I guess the wider part in the second photo is the result of too much hair slickum and a more severe comb-over.

The Rappolo comparison pictures show a dead-ringer.

So - this must be the band that accompanied Bee Palmer in 1921.

Brad K
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July 3rd, 2011, 2:03 pm #8


Here are two photos of Carlisle's band. This photo from Enrico.

<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://bixbeiderbecke.com/carlisle_evans_band_col.jpg">

This information from Evans and Evans. The Carlisle Evans band with Emmett Hardy (c), Myron Neal (C-m), Leon Roppolo (cl), Tal Sexton (tb), Louis Black (bj), Jack Willett (d) and Carlisle Evans (p) appeared in the Coliseum in Davenport in March-May, 1921.
Also from Evans and Evans. The band that accompanied Bee Palmer included Emmett Hardy, Santo Pecora, Leon Roppolo, John Frisco, Al Siegel.

This photo from the anonymous donor.

<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://bixbeiderbecke.com/CarlisleEvansLouBlack1.jpg">

Any commonalities?

Albert

 
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Glenda Childress
Glenda Childress

July 3rd, 2011, 4:30 pm #9

I vote yes for Roppolo and yes for Hardy.

You'll notice in the Hardy comparisons, his part is in the same exact location on the forehead, and his "widow's peak" on the left is the same. I guess the wider part in the second photo is the result of too much hair slickum and a more severe comb-over.

The Rappolo comparison pictures show a dead-ringer.

So - this must be the band that accompanied Bee Palmer in 1921.

Brad K
Absolutely for Roppolo. Probably for Hardy.
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Sue
Sue

July 6th, 2011, 1:25 am #10

I vote yes for Roppolo and yes for Hardy.

You'll notice in the Hardy comparisons, his part is in the same exact location on the forehead, and his "widow's peak" on the left is the same. I guess the wider part in the second photo is the result of too much hair slickum and a more severe comb-over.

The Rappolo comparison pictures show a dead-ringer.

So - this must be the band that accompanied Bee Palmer in 1921.

Brad K
It's not Hardy. And it's not 1921. You'll have to wait for my book for the details.

Sue
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