An Unusual Chase Chorus

An Unusual Chase Chorus

Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

October 19th, 2009, 7:54 pm #1

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There are several examples of two instrumentalists engaging in a chase chorus. Of course, here in the Bixography, we are familiar with Bix and Tram doing a chase chorus in several recordings. <p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> 
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">In Dec 1925, Cliff Ukulele Ike Edwards accompanied by his Hot Combination (Red Nichols, Miff Mole, Bobby Davis, Dick McDonough, Joe Tarto, Irving Brodsky or Arthur Schutt and Vic Berton) recorded Dinah, the famous composition by Harry Akst, Sam Lewis and Joe Young. After Edwards sings the chorus, Red Nichols on trumpet and Cliff Edwards scatting get into a very interesting chase chorus. Listen
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Does anyone know of a another example of a chorus between a vocalist scatting and any instrumentalist?
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Speaking of scatting in Dinah, get a load of Bix, Eddie Lang, Lennie Hayton and a shoe shiner in the Big Broadcast of 1932.
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Linda
Linda

October 20th, 2009, 12:00 am #2

Of course you meant " get a load of BING (instead of Bix), Eddie Lang, Lennie Hayton and a shoe shiner in the Big Broadcast of 1932."
But you got me thinking after I saw that clip. Wouldn't it have been wonderful if Bix could have lived and been in that film and in that clip. I can just see him sitting behind Bing and the shoe shine man. Bing starts his scatting then you see Bix in the background starting to play along. Or Bing does a scat chorus and pauses to rest and the shoe shine man keeps going and Bix plays a solo with the shoe shine man tapping out the rhythm on Bing's shoes.
That would be fantastic! A Bix solo on Dinah accompanied by shoe shine man, Eddie Lang and Lennie Hayton.
It just could have happened had Bix lived.
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Ken Bristow
Ken Bristow

October 20th, 2009, 7:44 am #3

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There are several examples of two instrumentalists engaging in a chase chorus. Of course, here in the Bixography, we are familiar with Bix and Tram doing a chase chorus in several recordings. <p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> 
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">In Dec 1925, Cliff Ukulele Ike Edwards accompanied by his Hot Combination (Red Nichols, Miff Mole, Bobby Davis, Dick McDonough, Joe Tarto, Irving Brodsky or Arthur Schutt and Vic Berton) recorded Dinah, the famous composition by Harry Akst, Sam Lewis and Joe Young. After Edwards sings the chorus, Red Nichols on trumpet and Cliff Edwards scatting get into a very interesting chase chorus. Listen
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">http://www.redhotjazz.com/songs/ike/dinah.ram
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Does anyone know of a another example of a chorus between a vocalist scatting and any instrumentalist?
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Speaking of scatting in Dinah, get a load of Bix, Eddie Lang, Lennie Hayton and a shoe shiner in the Big Broadcast of 1932.
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On the first segment of film with the shoeshine man Bing sings some scat. Stealing a phrase or two from Bix's earlier recordings. When Bing appeared on the Michael Parkinson Show on British TV and was asked about the early days with Whiteman, he told Parkinson, when quizzed about Beiderbecke, "I tried to sing the same way he played". This film clip proves it.
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Paul Bocciolone Strandberg
Paul Bocciolone Strandberg

October 20th, 2009, 10:11 am #4

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There are several examples of two instrumentalists engaging in a chase chorus. Of course, here in the Bixography, we are familiar with Bix and Tram doing a chase chorus in several recordings. <p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"> 
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">In Dec 1925, Cliff Ukulele Ike Edwards accompanied by his Hot Combination (Red Nichols, Miff Mole, Bobby Davis, Dick McDonough, Joe Tarto, Irving Brodsky or Arthur Schutt and Vic Berton) recorded Dinah, the famous composition by Harry Akst, Sam Lewis and Joe Young. After Edwards sings the chorus, Red Nichols on trumpet and Cliff Edwards scatting get into a very interesting chase chorus. Listen
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">http://www.redhotjazz.com/songs/ike/dinah.ram
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Does anyone know of a another example of a chorus between a vocalist scatting and any instrumentalist?
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Albert
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;">Speaking of scatting in Dinah, get a load of Bix, Eddie Lang, Lennie Hayton and a shoe shiner in the Big Broadcast of 1932.
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Well, the most famous and also one of the best ones is the chase between Louis (scatting) and Lonnie Johnson (guitar) in "Hotter Than That".
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

October 20th, 2009, 12:24 pm #5


Wynn's Creole Jazz Band 10/2/1928  Punch Miller scat vocal, Albert Wynn trombone

http://www.redhotjazz.com/Songs/misc/downbythelevee.ram

Duke Ellington 3//7/1929 Cootie Williams Scat vocal Freddie Jenkins growl trumpet

http://www.redhotjazz.com/songs/ellingt ... otfeet.ram

Albert
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Richard Iaconelli
Richard Iaconelli

October 20th, 2009, 12:52 pm #6

I don;t know if this qualifies as a "chase" recording but I have always thought that Bing Crosby's recording of "Sweet Sue" ( the unreleased piano version, circa 1932) with Lennie Hayton (?) on solo piano was one of Bing's greatest records. What relaxed swing.

When he scats, is he actually quoting Bix, note for note?
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

October 20th, 2009, 4:26 pm #7


<img alt="[linked image]" src="http://bixography.com/BingSweetSueGiddins.jpg">

Listen to Lennie and Bing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzqp3uMR_Ms

I love the changes in tempo when Bing comes in singing and when he goes into his scatting.

Does anyone know why the recording of Sweet Sue, waxed on Oct 25, 1932 ( in a few days the 77th anniversary), was not issued until 1967 in the CBS LP "The Bing Crosby Story, Volume I"?



The liners tells us, "A hiterto unreleased side with Lennie Hayton on piano in which he and Bing reminise [sic] musically of the Whiteman days with Beiderbecke. Both borrow generously from Bix's solo on the concert record of "Sue."

Something was going on. Bing waxed the following records on Oct 25, 1932. (first  number is matrix #)

B12500-A Linger A Litttle Longer In The Twilight Br 6491 (on the flip side "I've Got the World On A String)

B-12501-A We're A Couple Of Soldiers Br 6696 (on the flip side "Our Bib Love Scene")

B-12502-A Brother, Can You Spare A Dime? Br 6414 (on the flip side "Let's Put Out the Lights")

B-12505-A Sweet Sue - Just You CBS 66210 (UK), Epic EE-22015/6

Note matrix numbers jumping from 12502 to 12505. Ruth Etting recorded on matrix # B-12503 (I'll Follow You) and B-12504 (I'll Never Have To Dream Again).

What happened?

Albert
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

October 20th, 2009, 4:28 pm #8


.... his Bing biography, "Bing Crosby, A Pocketful of Dreams," The Early Years, 1903-1940."

Albert
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Nick Dellow
Nick Dellow

October 20th, 2009, 4:48 pm #9

Wynn's Creole Jazz Band 10/2/1928  Punch Miller scat vocal, Albert Wynn trombone

http://www.redhotjazz.com/Songs/misc/downbythelevee.ram

Duke Ellington 3//7/1929 Cootie Williams Scat vocal Freddie Jenkins growl trumpet

http://www.redhotjazz.com/songs/ellingt ... otfeet.ram

Albert
....and there's also the wonderful chase chorus between Gertrude "Baby" Cox and Bubber Miley on Ellington's "Hot and Bothered" (OK 8623), recorded on October 1st, 1928.

Virtually nothing is known about Baby Cox. She was only on four records and vanished from the scene after appearing in the show "Humming Sam" in 1933.

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Emrah Erken
Emrah Erken

October 20th, 2009, 5:56 pm #10

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