RAAF Auster

RAAF Auster

Joined: January 13th, 2007, 3:34 am

March 25th, 2009, 2:58 am #1

The new 1:72 scale Auster kit from AZ Models has been released (wasn't there a 1:72 scale kit promised from Swprd or Special Hobby a few years ago?) and I was looking at photos of the kit parts, decals, etc on a European website.

One of the two boxings includes RAAF markings but shows a green/brown camo scheme. I was always under the impression that wartime RAAF Austers were overall Foliage Green - any comments?

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PTM
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March 25th, 2009, 9:12 am #2

James,

I have not done any in-depth research on the RAAF's Austers but I believe that they probably entered service with the RAAF in the British camouflage they bore on arrival. However, most of the aircraft issued to 16 AOP and 17 AOP in late 1944 suffered badly when those units moved north.

Many of those of 17 AOP at Bouganvile were grounded in early 1945 to have their fabric and perspex replaced. Certainly after this they were finished in Foliage Green overall. I believe that this scheme may be correct for later aircraft of 17 AOP at Bouganville and those of 16 AOP that went ashore at Labuan and Tarakan in mid 1945.

Below is a photo of A11-8,(MZ174), the aircraft featured in those drawings. Judge for yourself if it is in British or RAAF camouflage. I believe that it is in British camouflage. On the other hand, the shark's mouth and the national markings depicted on the drawing do not seem to match those on the aircraft very well. The photo was taken near Bouganville on 18 Feb 1945, just two days before A8-11 was badly damaged in a landing accident, and written off.

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I also have a photo of A11-44 which did not see wartime service. It was received in October 1945, placed into storage, and eventually issued to 16 AOP at the end of 1946. It is still carrying its original British roundels and camouflage, but has the serial A11-44 on the fuselage side.

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Hope that that doesn't muddy the waters too much. As the experts say: check your references.

Cheers,
Peter
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Joined: February 9th, 2008, 6:04 am

March 25th, 2009, 9:26 am #3

The new 1:72 scale Auster kit from AZ Models has been released (wasn't there a 1:72 scale kit promised from Swprd or Special Hobby a few years ago?) and I was looking at photos of the kit parts, decals, etc on a European website.

One of the two boxings includes RAAF markings but shows a green/brown camo scheme. I was always under the impression that wartime RAAF Austers were overall Foliage Green - any comments?

the thought of flying one over a battlefield jungle fills me with horror
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Joined: January 13th, 2007, 3:34 am

March 25th, 2009, 10:36 am #4

I found this whilst traversing the bush in NW Queensland several years ago on a mineral exploration program.

Not many coconuts around there though, so I doubt that was the cause of its return to earth!!!

By the way, thanks for that info Peter. I agree with you - the camo demarcations are visible in that photo of A11-8 that you posted.





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Joined: March 8th, 2005, 10:54 am

March 25th, 2009, 11:19 am #5

The new 1:72 scale Auster kit from AZ Models has been released (wasn't there a 1:72 scale kit promised from Swprd or Special Hobby a few years ago?) and I was looking at photos of the kit parts, decals, etc on a European website.

One of the two boxings includes RAAF markings but shows a green/brown camo scheme. I was always under the impression that wartime RAAF Austers were overall Foliage Green - any comments?

Hi James,

AFAIK, Sword did produce an Auster, and I consider it highly likely that the AZ Auster is the Sword one reincarnated (reinjected, maybe?). If it is a similar bargain as the Sword Vultee Vanguard (P-48/-66) redone by AZ, I will give it a miss...

... the P-66 sells for some easy $ 50.-!!!

HTH,

Patrick Sprau
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Joined: February 9th, 2008, 6:04 am

March 25th, 2009, 11:25 am #6

I found this whilst traversing the bush in NW Queensland several years ago on a mineral exploration program.

Not many coconuts around there though, so I doubt that was the cause of its return to earth!!!

By the way, thanks for that info Peter. I agree with you - the camo demarcations are visible in that photo of A11-8 that you posted.





you would pass for "Wonder Woman" in her transparent plane
(Incidently thats why she always wore pants.. she didnt want Air Traffic Control looking up her skirts in the circuit)
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Nick Dixon
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March 25th, 2009, 1:44 pm #7

Hi James,

AFAIK, Sword did produce an Auster, and I consider it highly likely that the AZ Auster is the Sword one reincarnated (reinjected, maybe?). If it is a similar bargain as the Sword Vultee Vanguard (P-48/-66) redone by AZ, I will give it a miss...

... the P-66 sells for some easy $ 50.-!!!

HTH,

Patrick Sprau
& detail it with sprue. I'ts good enough for me.

Nick
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David Edwards
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March 25th, 2009, 10:49 pm #8

James,

I have not done any in-depth research on the RAAF's Austers but I believe that they probably entered service with the RAAF in the British camouflage they bore on arrival. However, most of the aircraft issued to 16 AOP and 17 AOP in late 1944 suffered badly when those units moved north.

Many of those of 17 AOP at Bouganvile were grounded in early 1945 to have their fabric and perspex replaced. Certainly after this they were finished in Foliage Green overall. I believe that this scheme may be correct for later aircraft of 17 AOP at Bouganville and those of 16 AOP that went ashore at Labuan and Tarakan in mid 1945.

Below is a photo of A11-8,(MZ174), the aircraft featured in those drawings. Judge for yourself if it is in British or RAAF camouflage. I believe that it is in British camouflage. On the other hand, the shark's mouth and the national markings depicted on the drawing do not seem to match those on the aircraft very well. The photo was taken near Bouganville on 18 Feb 1945, just two days before A8-11 was badly damaged in a landing accident, and written off.

[/IMG]

I also have a photo of A11-44 which did not see wartime service. It was received in October 1945, placed into storage, and eventually issued to 16 AOP at the end of 1946. It is still carrying its original British roundels and camouflage, but has the serial A11-44 on the fuselage side.

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Hope that that doesn't muddy the waters too much. As the experts say: check your references.

Cheers,
Peter
I'd convinved myself that the wartime Mk IIIs were in foliage green, nothing else.

There are more pics on the AWM site and Pentland's vol 2.
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David Edwards
David Edwards

March 25th, 2009, 10:50 pm #9

Hi James,

AFAIK, Sword did produce an Auster, and I consider it highly likely that the AZ Auster is the Sword one reincarnated (reinjected, maybe?). If it is a similar bargain as the Sword Vultee Vanguard (P-48/-66) redone by AZ, I will give it a miss...

... the P-66 sells for some easy $ 50.-!!!

HTH,

Patrick Sprau
They did promise it in the One True Scale but it never arrived.
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David Edwards
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March 25th, 2009, 10:52 pm #10

& detail it with sprue. I'ts good enough for me.

Nick
For us RAAF tragics, that will give us just the 2 Antarctic flight a/c. With a prop and cowl off a Bird Dog, the 2 77 Sqn Korean War Mk Vs are do-able. To venture to WW2 RAAF MkIIIs will involve much scratchbuilding or tracking down one of Uncle Les' resin fuslages and vacform canopies.

All good fun.
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