101 repair in South Africa

101 repair in South Africa

Joined: July 22nd, 2011, 4:46 am

February 7th, 2012, 8:26 pm #1

Got an email from a Crosman 101 owner in South Africa. He wants to repair his 101, but cannot take the chance of shipping it to the USA. I have forwarded to him the link with the factory service manualhttp://stevespages.com/pdf/crosman_fact ... al_all.pdf and also suggested to him that he join AVA to get more info.

The question I have: who is still supplying parts for the 101? It's been a couple years since I've been asked this and don't want to send him in a direction that is no longer available.
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February 8th, 2012, 12:44 am #2

I think these shops still deal in the old parts. I'm sure there may be a couple others also. Maybe Mac 1 or AB.

http://www.bryanandac.com/

http://www.airgunshop.net/


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February 11th, 2012, 4:47 am #3

Our South African 101 owner should be up on AVA soon. Thanks!

He's looking to get max performance out of a pyra steel valve version 101.

I was never able to get max performance out of the old conical valves but that was before Byran and Assoc started remanufacturing parts.

One thing that I always found helpful was making sure that the air chamber is properly sealed with an O-ring. So, I would pop out the air chamber and, using a lath, cut a channel for an O-ring on the pump end and reinstall. Then, I would upgrade the gun to use the latest valve assembly with good results. Would be interesting to hear what folks have been doing with their 101's these days.
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February 12th, 2012, 6:04 am #4

I think these shops still deal in the old parts. I'm sure there may be a couple others also. Maybe Mac 1 or AB.

http://www.bryanandac.com/

http://www.airgunshop.net/


dave

www.vintageairgun.com
Sir,
Thank you for the suppliers details. I will get in contact with them.
Could you please confirm if there are schematics (with dimensions) that I could purchase for the Crosman 101. My first choice is to buy the parts. However, schematics would offer me the option to have parts manufactured or machined as an alternative to shipping parts half way round the world to Africa. Thank you in advance.
I have images that I would like to post. However, this is my first successful attempt at posting on the forum and I still need to establish how to post images.
Kind regards
Ian
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February 12th, 2012, 7:16 am #5

I got a complete set of drawings for the 101 some years back. These are the drawings that Bryan and Assoc used to remanufacture their 101 parts. I have sold these drawings on a CD, over the years. However, if I have time this weekend, I will try get them posted up on either fb or my smugmug site.

Note: these drawings are all for the later, post WWII, version.

There are some parts you will want to purchase, such as the 101-021 washers. These are cast urethane and I think the manufactured ones are better than the ones made by hand.
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February 12th, 2012, 1:38 pm #6

from a post below, Henry sent this link for Crosman models. It may take a minute to load.

http://stevespages.com/pdf/crosman_fact ... al_all.pdf

daveb

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February 12th, 2012, 3:33 pm #7

I got a complete set of drawings for the 101 some years back. These are the drawings that Bryan and Assoc used to remanufacture their 101 parts. I have sold these drawings on a CD, over the years. However, if I have time this weekend, I will try get them posted up on either fb or my smugmug site.

Note: these drawings are all for the later, post WWII, version.

There are some parts you will want to purchase, such as the 101-021 washers. These are cast urethane and I think the manufactured ones are better than the ones made by hand.
Thank you for offering the drawings and advice.
Please excuse my ignorance, but where would I locate the "fb or your smugmug site"?

I do not see part 101-021 washers in the "Crosman factory service manual" parts list. Where do these washers fit? Is it the check valve seal?

Kind regards
Ian
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February 12th, 2012, 3:40 pm #8

from a post below, Henry sent this link for Crosman models. It may take a minute to load.

http://stevespages.com/pdf/crosman_fact ... al_all.pdf

daveb

www.vintageairgun.com
Dave,
Thank you for the link. I had recently received the link from Dean as well.
Kind regards
Ian
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February 12th, 2012, 7:13 pm #9

Thank you for offering the drawings and advice.
Please excuse my ignorance, but where would I locate the "fb or your smugmug site"?

I do not see part 101-021 washers in the "Crosman factory service manual" parts list. Where do these washers fit? Is it the check valve seal?

Kind regards
Ian
Memory failure on the part number. Should have been 121- (can't recall) Won't try and dig up that number right now. Instead, I will put some effort into getting the entire parts list up.

FB page is:https://www.facebook.com/pages/DT-Fletc ... 9939292280

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February 12th, 2012, 8:03 pm #10

here the photo gallery of the Cromsan 101 parts drawings.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 280&type=3

The "RM" on the drawings is Rudy Merz.

What happened is that right at the end of WWII, Rudy Merz was hired and his first job was to get production of the classic Crosman rifle going in the new Henrietta St. plant. These drawings are the result of that effort.
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