Gun buttons

Gun buttons

Joined: May 4th, 2007, 8:13 am

June 15th, 2012, 8:22 am #1

possibly not the correct venue to ask but somebody here might know. I have recently picked up a gun button for a spadegrip. It is the familiar round type for machine gun only aircraft. The construction is brass with the safe/fire ring heavily plated in a grey metal, with the words infilled with green and red repectivly. The button itself is black composite material, and it is an electric type rather than air operated. On the side is feintly engraved the following:

AHO 16430
1886
TDR
581
RT
DP
822

This might not be completely accurate as the engraving is very fient. So the reson I am posting is does anybody know what any of the above might mean? Or what types of aircraft would have been fitted with electric gun buttons?

Thanks for any input,
Jb

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Joined: March 26th, 2005, 5:25 pm

June 15th, 2012, 9:59 am #2

Hi

Sounds like a Hawker Typhoon gun-button. Nice!
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

June 15th, 2012, 4:24 pm #3

I guess my first comment would be to make sure its not a repro button. Repro spade grips have been produced complete with brass fire buttons.

Without having a parts listing, by aircraft type, I think it would be tough to attribute these to a particular aircraft type. The Hurricane, Spit, Typhoon, and Tempest all shared the same basic spade grip. Button configuration could differ slightly.

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Joined: March 26th, 2005, 5:25 pm

June 15th, 2012, 4:52 pm #4

Further to my earlier post, I have now checked my reference sources.

Assuming that it is original, the Dunlop drg. A.H.O. 16430 ties it to either Albacore, Firebrand, Tempest or Typhoon.
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

June 15th, 2012, 6:43 pm #5

you'll also see the same on the Hurricane.
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Joined: May 4th, 2007, 8:13 am

June 15th, 2012, 8:29 pm #6

Thanks for all the replies. It is definately a real one, as I have handled a fair few buttons in the past although all of them were air operated types. I have handled a few repro ones as well and they have never been quite "right" so have no reason to doubt this one.
Cheers
Jb
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Joined: March 26th, 2005, 5:25 pm

June 15th, 2012, 9:25 pm #7

you'll also see the same on the Hurricane.
Pretty sure that the Hurricane version will be pneumatic rather than electric firing.

Source is AP 1086 (PART 11E) Section 27J
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

June 16th, 2012, 11:07 pm #8

Sorry. I was referring the basic spade grip rather firing systems.
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