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Paul Durrant
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April 1st, 2015, 5:53 pm #61

Richard Warren:12802 wrote:But no Fifth Battalions in any volunteers of this period, nor militia. And no battalion or regiment sized militia artillery until the 1850's.

Darker leathers compatible with 60th Royal Americans, no?
Battalion, of course... stupid of me...sorry.

60th? I've no idea on colours, tbh
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April 1st, 2015, 5:57 pm #62

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John Waller
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April 2nd, 2015, 7:58 pm #63

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April 3rd, 2015, 7:30 pm #64

A near match for the rear view figure at left in Denis D's study of the Coldstreams, 1821. So presumably copied by Wymer from a sketch for a Grenadier company figure that wasn't included.

http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/colle ... uards-1821

(Though the search doodah on the Royal Collection doesn't seem to throw up everything by the Dightons even when you put "Dighton" in ... )
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April 4th, 2015, 9:41 am #65

Nice catch, Richard. That's is a very tight greatcoat roll, like its been ironed. The 1820s bearskin has to be one of the most ugly military head dresses ever devised.
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April 5th, 2015, 5:20 pm #66

I would say that the image that John has posted may have been the original study for the image that Richard posted. The Guardsman in John image is certainly post period. His coat has long tails and are much further to the rear than the earlier tailed coats and also the cuffs are post 1820's. So it looks like they used this study but changed his cap to a bell to shako.

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November 22nd, 2017, 9:15 pm #67

Memoirs of the 39th Foot, 1808-14, Private John Morris Jones (as published in JSAHR, Autumn 2017, Vol 95, No382)

Crossing the Pyrenees 1813
“After the battle of the Pyrenees…our Division occupied the heights and pass of Roncesvalles, until the beginning of November. On the evening of the 7th of that month, I was, together with a corporal and 12 men, placed on the outlying picket…It rained, thundered, and hailed, nearly the whole night - indeed it was one of the worst nights I ever passed exposed to the weather. Not having great-coats, we made use of our blankets as substitutes; but when morning dawned, they were so saturated and swollen with the rain, that we could not fold them into the knapsack again…”
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Ben Townsend
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December 11th, 2017, 8:59 am #68

A couple of Samuel Drummond (1765-1844) studies from the British Museum. No date, but possibly from life? Useful for cap cover as well.
ACC: 1876,0708.2377
Black and white chalk on brown paper
1876,0708.2378.jpg
1876,0708.2377.jpg
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December 11th, 2017, 10:06 am #69

Ben Townsend wrote: A couple of Samuel Drummond (1765-1844) studies from the British Museum. No date, but possibly from life? Useful for cap cover as well.
ACC: 1876,0708.2377
Black and white chalk on brown paper
Seen the first but not the second  - cracking!  Belgic so post 1812. Brass end to cartridge box strap-  Guards - single spaced lace loops - 1st  Guards ??  Do I see the suggestion of a Thatcher type leather 'shoulder' on the knapsack?
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December 11th, 2017, 6:09 pm #70

OMG!!! Oh-My-Heffing-God!!!!!!!

That is so 'Thatcher'!! Gotta be!
Oh lord! The mess tin cover, no roll on top of pack, the haversack strap over the cross belt.... IT'S ALL TOOOOOO MUCH! AAAaaaargh!

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