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Paul Durrant
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November 9th, 2010, 8:51 pm #1

The '60 round' pouch courtesy of the Royal Armouries, Leeds (2008)
(Apologies for quality. Not taken by me! Captions on photos not mine either.)

That's the buff button flap in the tin box. (No idea where that small buckle is from!). Two trays - 4 cartridge parcels (of 10 rounds each?) standing in top, 2 lying flat underneath.


Buff strap and note invisible stitching (part ways through the flap but not going all way through.)
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Paul Durrant
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November 13th, 2010, 12:31 pm #2

Whilst out and about I've noticed some re-enactors seem to have bother with their cross strap buckling on to their cartridge boxes. If you're in doubt as to which way the buckle should be on your pouch, here are some originals I've come across dating 1780s-1810s:


Courtesy and Copyright The National Army Museum


Copyright Paul Durrant 2/95th

Notice the buckle pin on the back of the buckle with the strap doubling back up the back of the pouch.
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Paul Durrant
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November 15th, 2010, 6:50 pm #3

The Cartridge Pouch of the 95th

In 1816, just over a year after Waterloo, Colonel Amos Norcott of the newly re-named Rifle Brigade submitted a memorandum to Horse Guards containing his views on the equipment of the 95th Rifles over the war years, and suggesting some improvements to be made.

This is what he had to say on the pouch:

Of The First Pouch Issued To The Corps.
The Shape was an oblong with the top perfectly flat, side leathers united with the front, thus forming a complete case as a guard against weather. The Spare Flints were carried in a small leather bag with a running string, and this was attached to the body of the Pouch under the cover of it.
The interior consisted of a Tin Case divided into two equal parts, and a
wooden frame with holes for twelve cartridges. The loose Balls covered with rags were kept in the tin compartments, and the Ball Cartridges in the wooden holes. These latter were intended for use on the outposts at night, in the event of attack in dark, or bad weather, being then more easy to load with, than loose Powder and Ball.

Of The Pouch at Present In Use.
It differs from the Former one in no respect as to interior. The form is an
oblong curved, in order to sit close to the back of the Waist; it has no side
guard against bad weather, and the place in which the spare flints are placed is unequal to hold them securely, being too small and without any running string to close it.


This is one of those juicy bits of description that comes up now and again - and tells you everything and nothing! Contemporary illustrations seem to cast little light on this either (inasmuch as trying to gauge approx size). However, there is a possible glimpse of the later pouch in an occupation print of 1815.


Courtesy Anne S.K. Brown Military Collection

Would anyone like to venture theories on the tin and wooden 'frame' (block presumably)?

A full version of the letter can be found in our research files;
http://www.95th-rifles.co.uk/The%20defi ... orcott.pdf
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Gareth Newfield
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December 24th, 2017, 11:45 am #4

Craig Williams has recently done a nice little op-ed piece on examples of the '60 round' box found here in Canada, which can be found at:

http://warof1812.ca/1804tin.htm
Gareth Newfield
7/60th (Royal American) Regt., No. 8 Coy.
'Celer et Audax'
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Paul Durrant
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December 24th, 2017, 12:34 pm #5

Gareth Newfield wrote: Craig Williams has recently done a nice little op-ed piece on examples of the '60 round' box found here in Canada, which can be found at:

http://warof1812.ca/1804tin.htm
Would dispute the date, however;

"...so I contacted the British museum regarding the complete example they have..."

How did that slip under the radar?? I've looked through their inventory online without success. Anyone have any knowledge of this?
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Paul Durrant
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February 25th, 2018, 9:20 pm #6

Update on that last post.

Talked to Gareth who thinks he may have got the museum mixed up on that one (it had been awhile ago he'd enquired) and thinks it may have been Leeds Armouries.
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